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FS "Not Mine" Pinball Machines For Sale

GUARD

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Did anyone catch the Data East Star Trek that was on Kijiji a couple days ago? Listed for sale at $2,000 and located in Owen Sound. Seemed legit, but not 100% certain. I messaged the guy and got a response, but then silence for the remainder of the day and then the ad was removed. Did someone on here get that game or was it a scam?
I got no reply nor did my buddy.......though he read our messages.
 

dnaman

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Smoking deal here everyone! Lol

Holy shit!

I found one that was less than a year opened from NIB, back a handful of years ago for $6400. That was a steal! This is retarded. Of course I know that you were joking, but just insane what people are thinking.
 

dnaman

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The fees alone will kill you. Also the fact you can never know if the bids are being 'artificially' increased, so factor in the cost of the bids + fees to see if it makes any sense and if the price is right for you!

Keep in mind, once they tell you to pick up, you have to pick up on those days - they won't accomodate as they need their space to bring in more stuff.

Finally, amongst many other things, if the game needs fixin', you're stuck with it.

Yeah, I'm not a big "sight unseen" auction fan!!
We know that it's unregulated, fraudulent shilling. Human greed and many are proud that they can take advantage of others this way. It's the "Hey, if someone will pay it..." attitude.
 

MrMikeman

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If it was any other recent LE I'd agree... But it's still a LZ.... :(

It's the one game that both my wife and I agreed sucked. We had a Prem on temp trade for a few months. We just couldn't get into it. The music is good. That's about it. Game play just didn't feel fun. don't ask me to explain why I don't know. I don't care about other people's opinions I prefer to judge for myself but in this case I have to agree with the consensus. Meh.

For an example of the opposite, Stern POTC is a game universally hated and we thought it was a lot of fun.
 
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dnaman

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I wonder why he felt the need to write 'no tariff on price', when he is in Toronto. I assume that there is also 'no tax', but he doesn't say. ;)
 
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The Demo man is almost 30 years old so lots of plays are to be expected. These newer Sterns with lots of plays (with their easily dimpled playfields and cheap hardware used for mechs etc) is concerning!
There are machines out there, that were on location with 40k+ plays that look new and play like new. The number of plays is meaningless. Condition and maintenance are the only thing that matters.
 

dnaman

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The Demo man is almost 30 years old so lots of plays are to be expected. These newer Sterns with lots of plays (with their easily dimpled playfields and cheap hardware used for mechs etc) is concerning!
There are machines out there, that were on location with 40k+ plays that look new and play like new. The number of plays is meaningless. Condition and maintenance are the only thing that matters.
Smokezz, although there is some truth to that, the dimpling argument/debate is real and you know that it is split. My reality, and I have 28 current pins in my home collection, is that new playfields are not like most of the 90's era titles. In a way, it is why I struggle to sell some of my older pins, becuase the PFs are just so nice. I am not talking about battered 'players condition' pins of course or pins that spent years in a garage, but some of those pins have PFs in amazing condition.

Regardless, a claim to say that play counts in the thousands are meaningless is just a claim, others will disagree and can show why they disagree. That said, there is always a buyer or someone to trade one for another. At $7500, I would not buy this JP PRO, I woudl look for a lower count or buy new, if available. I personally woudl also buy a PRE, but that again is just preference but easily a topic of debate by just as many. ;)
 
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Smokezz

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Smokezz, although there is some truth to that, the dimpling argument/debate is real and you know that it is split. My reality, and I have 28 current pins in my home collection, is that new playfields are not like most of the 90's era titles. In a way, it is why I struggle to sell some of my older pins, becuase the PFs are just so nice. I am not talking about battered 'players condition' pins of course or pins that spent years in a garage, but some of those pins have PFs in amazing condition.

Regardless, a claim to say that play counts in the thousands are meaningless is just a claim, others will disagree and can show why they disagree. That said, there is always a buyer or someone to trade one for another. At $7500, I would not buy this JP PRO, I woudl look for a lower count or buy new, if available. I personally woudl also buy a PRE, but that again is just preference but easily a topic of debate by just as many. ;)

Yeah, but it's not like the dimples turn into potholes. Some have gotten so obsessed with low plays that they buy machines and don't play their machines at all. It's kinda ridiculous.

# of plays can also be attributed to restarts... I don't know what happened folks, but it appears that we've gone back in time to ball 1!

The Diamondplate playfields were certainly far better than today's playfields. I'll give you that for sure.

$7500 is a great deal btw, even for a routed JP Pro. If you look on Pinside for routed machines, even less popular titles go for around the $5k mark. That's $8200 to get it over the border once you pay the tax + exchange. (Ignoring the tariff BS). And this one you don't have to drive to go get it, which would add a few hundred bucks to the cost depending on how far. Buying new? You're looking at around 11k. If you know pinball machines, you can easily go over the machine and figure out how well maintained it was.
 
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MrMikeman

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The whole dimplegate thing has been debunked as well. Claims that older playfields didn't dimple have been proven false by ppl that were actually alive and operating those games when they were popular. The dimpling evens out after tens of thousands of plays. We are seeing revisionist history making based on observation in a moment in time and applying that superficial observation retroactively.