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Pinball Medics 25% Tariff Surcharge

MrMikeman

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Canadians use Pinside pricing as a rough guide. No pins are selling in Canada for the actual Pinside average. They tend to sell for less in Canada. Pinside is just a guide. Very useful for trades when you want confirm similar values.
 

gunner007

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US Dollar is slowly falling, Canadian dollar gained 3 cents this month. US dollar will continue to fall, slowly, but will continue while markets are confused by tariffs. If the US sees a recession we could see US pin prices dropping while the Canadian dollar rises. You can already buy used Premiums for 6-7k USD, this could fall even lower while our exchange rate improves. Not a guarantee by any means but also not out of the realm of possibility at this point. Canadians use PINSIDE pricing so will be interesting to see what happens to the value of pins in Canada
Ummm I follow currency daily and thats not really accurate. for 1 day we dropped to 67 cents. and for less than a day apr 3 we hit 71. But its been on a flat line of 69 70 since Dec. prior to that its been on a nose dive from par since this gov took office because we are printing more than we producing. gdp. There is 0 confidence in our currency and thats how currency fluctuates. If somehow the greenback stopped being the world currency. Then maybe we would be in better shape. But our debt load has doubled in 10 years 600bil to 1.4 tril and currently we are in a lot of financial trouble ourselves.
I hope your right but if you have any money the US is still the place to hedge your bets.
But again this is just a blip that so many people worry about daily. Things will go one way or another and pins have their own market. New vs used will be the difference for us.
 
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Ummm I follow currency daily and thats not really accurate. for 1 day we dropped to 67 cents. and for less than a day apr 3 we hit 71. But its been on a flat line of 69 70 since Dec. prior to that its been on a nose dive from par since this gov took office because we are printing more than we producing. gdp. There is 0 confidence in our currency and thats how currency fluctuates. If somehow the greenback stopped being the world currency. Then maybe we would be in better shape. But our debt load has doubled in 10 years 600bil to 1.4 tril and currently we are in a lot of financial trouble ourselves.
I hope your right but if you have any money the US is still the place to hedge your bets.
But again this is just a blip that so many people worry about daily. Things will go one way or another and pins have their own market. New vs used will be the difference for us.

Par eh? Oct 2015 the exchange rate was around the 1.30 range. Quit making shit up. It was around the par range in 2013/2014 - before the election. I guess you just don't remember things as well as you think you do.

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Par eh? Oct 2015 the exchange rate was around the 1.30 range. Quit making shit up. It was around the par range in 2013/2014 - before the election. I guess you just don't remember things as well as you think you do.

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I guess a calm discussion is out the window. I dont care who you vote for or want to talk politics. There are people and gov that are good with money and those that arent. Spending $800billion of debt is bad fonance. Period. So here are some facts 1.06 in 2011 and follow the yearly trend there after. I'm not picking one day over another. The long term trend has been DOWN. Just the way it is. Consumer confidence is DOWN. We are not a strong currency for a few reasons, but debt load is a major one. Plain and simple economics. If your credit card is already in the - and then you double that. No one trusts you or wants to give you more. So you start
making fake credit cards to spend. Or printing worthless loonies. Hopefully things turn around but not for a long time imo.
 

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Smokezz

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I guess a calm discussion is out the window. I dont care who you vote for or want to talk politics. There are people and gov that are good with money and those that arent. Spending $800billion of debt is bad fonance. Period. So here are some facts 1.06 in 2011 and follow the yearly trend there after. I'm not picking one day over another. The long term trend has been DOWN. Just the way it is. Consumer confidence is DOWN. We are not a strong currency for a few reasons, but debt load is a major one. Plain and simple economics. If your credit card is already in the - and then you double that. No one trusts you or wants to give you more. So you start
making fake credit cards to spend. Or printing worthless loonies. Hopefully things turn around but not for a long time imo.
Ok, and you put all that blame on the current government. That all started BEFORE the current government was elected. So yes, I'm calling you out for misinformation. And you're also cherry picking "facts". Go back to 2003, it was 1.36. In 1995, the average was 1.37. The average in 1984 was 1.29.

I also don't really care who you vote for, but I do care when someone posts lies.
 

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Ok, and you put all that blame on the current government. That all started BEFORE the current government was elected. So yes, I'm calling you out for misinformation. And you're also cherry picking "facts". Go back to 2003, it was 1.36. In 1995, the average was 1.37. The average in 1984 was 1.29.

I also don't really care who you vote for, but I do care when someone posts lies.
I guess you don't understand economics. That's ok. And if the current government was the bloc I would have said current government. And just like in the US, currently their markets are taking a beating because of current actions by the current government. Oh and btw they are conservative. And the adult discussion was about the "current" value of our $. Which as i said has been on a nose. I mean just pull up a chart of the 10yr trend. I can't help facts. But calling me a liar is pretty funny. Metrics are metrics. Your debt load has more than doubled in 10 yrs, (you owed aprox $16k of debt 10yrs ago today aprox $65k) those are facts and did not start prior to uncontrolled spending. I was simply stating that our $ is not bouncing back and the .03 was for minutes during a couple day cycle. I know because I watch the market "every day' multiple times. So when someone says we made a .03 gain. We clearly haven't. But have a great day.
 

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The last point to all of this.
Is buy up all of pinball medics, drapled, nitro manna whom ever is selling parts and pins in Canada and keep them afloat. Don't wait for ? Because who knows what tomorrow will bring if we did we'd all be rich. Buy that canadian stock.
 

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I guess you don't understand economics. That's ok. And if the current government was the bloc I would have said current government. And just like in the US, currently their markets are taking a beating because of current actions by the current government. Oh and btw they are conservative. And the adult discussion was about the "current" value of our $. Which as i said has been on a nose. I mean just pull up a chart of the 10yr trend. I can't help facts. But calling me a liar is pretty funny. Metrics are metrics. Your debt load has more than doubled in 10 yrs, (you owed aprox $16k of debt 10yrs ago today aprox $65k) those are facts and did not start prior to uncontrolled spending. I was simply stating that our $ is not bouncing back and the .03 was for minutes during a couple day cycle. I know because I watch the market "every day' multiple times. So when someone says we made a .03 gain. We clearly haven't. But have a great day.

You're still cherry picking your data on the usd/cad exchange rate. And look, I can do that too! 2021, it was LOWER on average than when the current government took office. Same with most of 2022. 2023 it was slightly higher. (4-5c). 2024 it started to go up quite a bit more... And from 2015 - 2019, it was pretty much static at the same rate as when they took over. 2020 was pretty volatile for obvious reasons.

Our dollar is affected by a hell of a lot more than what our government does. It's affected more by what the American government does by than our own.
 

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By the way the Canadian government put in place a special process for companies to file for tariffs remission.

In relation to requests for remission of the tariffs that apply beginning on March 4, 2025, the Government will consider requests for remission in the following instances:

  1. To address situations where goods used as inputs cannot be sourced domestically, either on a national or regional basis, or reasonably from non-U.S. sources.
  2. To address, on a case-by-case basis, other exceptional circumstances that could have severe adverse impacts on the Canadian economy.
This is specifically for sectors where you cannot find a Canadian source for the goods or even non-US sources. Just need to file the document and submit it electronically. I'm not sure if its as valid for parts since maybe alternate sources can be found in China or Europe? but some distributors are already using the tariffs remission for NIB games.

This is great news for the pinball NIB market in Canada!

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September 1, 2025 – The 25% tariffs on pinball machines and parts are gone. As of today, everything under HS Code 9504.50.00 is back to zero duty. We’ve already removed the charges from our pricing and the savings are live. Thank you to everyone for your patience while we worked through this. More details on our website here: https://pinballmedics.ca/canada-rem...PFcQ-zs-kqHiIIVg6w_aem_kiyr_khSavPwQF8QnF_ajw
 

pinmeds

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More positive news; We have yet to receive the first batch of this weeks shipments, but have confirmed with Fedex that everything under HS Code 9504.50.00 is back to zero duty, and as such our current shipments are also. We will confirm once they arrive and import fees are paid in full, which should be tomorrow.

While the Canadian Government has not updated their public reciprocal tariff list, despite the fact it claims to be up to date as of Sep 1 (https://www.canada.ca/en/department...t-us-products-subject-to-counter-tariffs.html), CBSA and Fedex appear to be on the same no tariff page.

Sales are crazy since Sep 1, but we did not deplete our inventory through the Trade War and are packing non-stop, and we are still up to date with most orders leaving same day.
 
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It is updated on the government website, I thought the same as you initially however the tabs don't show on mobile it seems (only desktop).

Under the tab "Effective September 1, 2025" the HS code "9504.50.00" is no longer on the list. Only the codes left under that tab are still in effect, its mostly Aluminum and Steel counter tariffs. So the website public list is up to date, its just not super user friendly to navigate.

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