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TIP How much is a fully restored Addams worth?

Richard McLaughlin

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Hey guys! I have a question about game value.

How much would a fair price be for a very well done restore on Addams?

Pin has mint clear coated playfield, Radcals, colour lcd, lighted speaker panel, powder coat, pinsound. Looks new!

Thanks!
Richard
 
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Pin_Fandango

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If it is a hack it is worth noting..
Hate radcals because you can't see how they did the exterior cabinet. Radcals are also hard to install well, trim the holes, etc.
A good way to judge the cab is looking inside ane the bottom panel from inside and outside. If corners were cut here, for example, it does not look pristine, then under the radcals corners were cut 10000%. A poorly made cab is a bad start.

Then the mechs, wiring and all this? Has it been hacked.
Next, boards?

If it is comparable to what HEP makes, then it is worth quite a bit.

If it is "looks new" collector special that looks good from 5 feet away it is worth nothing to me and will need to be all redone. I would never buy this.

If this is the game you showed me last year, I suspect he wants more than what it was originally discussed hence the delays.
 

dnaman

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Seems silly but... It's worth whatever you are willing to pay and they are willing to sell it for. Buyers want cheap and sellers want gold.

The playfield is everything to me. You can always fix or restore a cabinet, when they are rough, should you want to, but a playfield restore or purchase and swap is a huge, costly deal.
 

Jeff K.

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If it’s a top notch restore, as others have indicated, it’s likely in the $12k-$14k range. However, has to be HEP level of restore.
I have a HUO TAFG with a Poolman cleared pf, and it would rival a HEP example.
As dnaman indicated above, it’s ultimately worth what you feel it’s worth.
The extras are easy to add, the key is the pf. Not a big fan of radcals but ymmv.
 
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Its why we have to keep promoting pinball shows, tournaments, places to play, etc.....need to keep new blood flowing in to start with the "new to the hobby" games.

Or no one will have room for the new ones.
 

Pin_Fandango

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They are depreciating assets for the most part. Once people lower their expectations pins will move.


I think that goes against basically everything we have seen over the last 10+ years. Outside of a small gap around 1999 to 2007, almost every desirable Williams pinball machine has gone up in value, and in some cases dramatically. IJ, TZ, TAF, etc. were all games that sold for under $3K new, and today they are worth multiples of that.

So no, in most cases they are not depreciating assets. A depreciating asset is a vehicle. You buy it, it loses value, and eventually it trends toward zero. That is not what has happened with pinball. Good titles from established manufacturers have historically held value or appreciated. The exceptions are usually speculative purchases, unproven companies, or odd platforms that never really caught on.

What we are seeing right now is a market correction after a huge boom. There are more games available, more people selling, and some expectations are probably unrealistic. Eventually the market will sort out what is a desirable title and what is not. Good games will hold up, weaker games will move down.

Also, I think using the Canadian market as the benchmark for the entire pinball market is not accurate. Canada is currently dealing with economic pressure, a weak currency, and we are a very small portion of the overall market. Most games are made and sold in the US. Our local transactions are a tiny sample size and do not really represent the broader market.


A good title will always find a buyer, especially an all times classic like this, there will always be a buyer. Last, we are not isolated from the rest of the market. If something is desirable and priced correctly, it will move, whether that buyer is here or across the border, which is most cases, is very close to us.
 
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