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ANSWER NEW John Wick Topper

Chris Bardon

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Interesting idea-I'm actually more interested in how something like that resets between power cycles. If you have the sand in a known state (all right side) then you know that you have 3 mins on the timer at startup. If not, you could put in a 3 min rotation to reset the state on startup, but that would take a while. It'd be tricky (and more expensive) to put a weight sensor in the hourglass to detect the amount of sand in it on startup and carry that over. What's more likely I suppose is that the game always assumes 3 mins of sand in the right bulb on startup, then waits until the first person gets 3 mins worth of combos, then plays the mode, and after that the topper is "correct"? Just means that the carry over doesn't really carry across power cycles, which I suppose is consistent with other toppers that have this kind of feature like AIQ or JP, or the letters in Mustang (unless those do carry over and get stored in non-volatile storage).
 
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king_pin

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Tariffs about to add an additional 25% on this thing. Call it an even 3k I guess. Pinball is dead in Canada if this happens.
 
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MoPin

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I don’t think pinball will die. Those with money will keep buying them and others will be forced to pay more for used games. Those with pinballs for sale will likely make more money on them, and going back to the USA would be tariff free, so someone down there will likely buy it If Canada sales stop.
 

king_pin

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Sure it won't die, I agree. It will be significantly reduced in my opinion. Could I afford a machine with at 25% tariff on top? Sure I could. Do I want to pay 25% more for a pinball machine? No I do not. Do I want to support the US economy if Donald Trump imposes tariffs on Canada? No I do not. It's a combination of extra cost but for me it's also about "voting with my dollar" and trying to limit the amount of $ I'm sending south of the border.
 
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MoPin

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Sure it won't die, I agree. It will be significantly reduced in my opinion. Could I afford a machine with at 25% tariff on top? Sure I could. Do I want to pay 25% more for a pinball machine? No I do not. Do I want to support the US economy if Donald Trump imposes tariffs on Canada? No I do not. It's a combination of extra cost but for me it's also about "voting with my dollar" and trying to limit the amount of $ I'm sending south of the border.
Good points and I can totally agree. Really the only people that will hurt the most with the tariffs will be the dealers who will see their sales almost dry up completely but still have to pay the bills to keep the lights on. The rest of us will only buy the most amazing games to be released, but I doubt we see any real improvement in pins to justify amazing!!
 

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It’s more than just 25% though because as soon as tariffs are lifted, that game now drops in value by 25% since the US market prices won’t have been affected at all. So how many people are willing to pay an additional 4-5k or whatever 25% is, just as a temporary rental fee, per se?
 
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Murphelman

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Good points and I can totally agree. Really the only people that will hurt the most with the tariffs will be the dealers who will see their sales almost dry up completely but still have to pay the bills to keep the lights on. The rest of us will only buy the most amazing games to be released, but I doubt we see any real improvement in pins to justify amazing!!
Dealers have a ton of current stock and those games won't go up in price. They will remain the same. People can just buy those until the tariffs are removed. The problem is if a dealer buys games with the 25% tariffs that game will not go down after tariffs are removed.

You think the market is weird now. Wait a few weeks...
 
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roar

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The added mode had my thinking about one but $2500? C'mon, when is this gonna stop!?
I’m not current but I thought most topper only modes had found their way into future releases eventually… my knowledge sample size on this really begins and ends with JP though so take that with a grain of salt :)
 
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